New Lzzy Hale Voyager

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Re: New Lzzy Hale Voyager

Post by Kramers » Tue Dec 05, 2023 2:29 pm

AAEA wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:24 am not my cup to tea :viking
You're not alone. Screaming women with attitudes give me headaches.

Like... get back in the kitchen already. Jeez.
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Re: New Lzzy Hale Voyager

Post by Kramers » Tue Dec 05, 2023 2:43 pm

Jokes aide, they totally ripped off the Kramer Forum Kayla Kent model with that paint job!

Even IF it was obviously in the works already.
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Re: New Lzzy Hale Voyager

Post by sixstring » Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:53 pm

Kramers wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 2:29 pm
AAEA wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:24 am not my cup to tea :viking
You're not alone. Screaming women with attitudes give me headaches.

Like... get back in the kitchen already. Jeez.
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Re: New Lzzy Hale Voyager

Post by workerunit » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:46 pm

It looks cool, comes with a hardcase and the price is not too ridiculous by 2023 standards.
That being said, it is not my cup of tea, but whatever.....

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Re: New Lzzy Hale Voyager

Post by Dirty D » Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:00 pm

Anyway you slice it, hard rock needs more women that bring talent to the equation prioritized above lazy sexualized marketing, and I respect her a lot for the time she has put in and with her and her brother's willingness to grind their way to success.

Also nice to see that Gibson finally opened their eyes to what Fender realized a while ago - that female endorsers, if you choose the right ones, can be valuable additions to a company's artist lineup.

That said, I think it's a big stretch to call Halestorm one of the biggest American rock bands of the past two decades. I can't think of a single metric of "success" whereby they would crack the top 100. The grammy nod is cool, but seriously, was their song better than the offerings that year from Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Lamb of God and Anthrax? Seems sorta right there in line with Jethro Tull beating Metallica, Jane's Addiction, AC/DC and Iggy Pop.

Again, anyway you slice it, hard rock needs more women that can play well, so I'm glad she's getting the recognition, and I do like her swagger that sort of reminds me of a cross between Joan Jett and Hayley Williams. But to me, their music is over-produced and sounds suspiciously similar to Kelly Clarkson back when Kelly still was cool.

My asshole dubious opinion notwithstanding, I do hope she sells some guitars for Kramer in order to hopefully pry the door open a little further for more women to also get endorsement deals.
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Re: New Lzzy Hale Voyager

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Re: New Lzzy Hale Voyager

Post by AAEA » Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:51 am

Corporate rock is like aids...

So are Youtube Shill Ron Popeil Channels....

but wait there's more! wait... lets say it like the youtube shill would say... "Me.. personally"

Fuck I hate when I hear someone say that. its like who the fuck else are you talking for.

Rather than build guitars people want; lets go out and dredge up artists nobody knows about and then offer them artist model guitars that will last... well just that single hit and run model and then they will be playing a charvel next week...
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Re: New Lzzy Hale Voyager

Post by shwayman11 » Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:47 pm

Sluggy wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:29 am
That was interesting. I wonder how close the Lzzy Hale Voyager is to the point '80s and MusicYo Voyagers.
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Re: New Lzzy Hale Voyager

Post by Kramers » Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:28 pm

^What was that horrible sound at 15:15?? Sounds worse than my back. No joke.

I'm digging the Voyager shape though. Can't lie.
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Re: New Lzzy Hale Voyager

Post by shwayman11 » Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:51 pm

Kramers wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:28 pm ^What was that horrible sound at 15:15?? Sounds worse than my back. No joke.

I'm digging the Voyager shape though. Can't lie.
Sounds like the Floyd collar isn't tightened all the way.

Interesting tidbit from that video--Hale originally wanted her Voyager done in a holoflash but couldn't get it done because of the chemicals involved.
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