The birth of the Kramer 1984

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louieatienza
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The birth of the Kramer 1984

Post by louieatienza » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:48 pm

Don't know how many remember in the old forum when discussion was going on about creating what was to become the "1984."

Anyway, Mike Mojabi (kramermaniaxe) was one of the guys consulted by MusicYo in the creation of what is called the "1984." Despite what many mistake it to be, it is not a Baretta. It is more a recreation of Eddie's 5150 guitar, sans stripes. The 5150 is actually a Pacer Special, with a neck made by Paul Unkert.

To aid the MusicYo guys, Mike sent them a NOS Pacer Special body and a neck from Billy Connolly that was made using the original 5150 neck template. Thus the "1984" was born, outfitted with chrome hardware, like the 5150, and a Duncan JB (probably similar to what Eddie was using at the time.)

Fast forward about a decade or so, and Mike is starting to liquidate what's left of his collection. When he posted the Aztec prototype Swan, I asked him if he still had this body and neck. And to my surprise, he did! After a bit of searching on his part, and negotiation on mine, I now have said body and neck! How cool is that?!

The dilemma now is whether to preserve the body and neck, as-is for posterity's sake, or build it into a killer guitar. I'm leaning toward the latter. The body is pretty beat. As Mike told me, the "seconds" would be saved, stripped and given a stripe paint job, then kicked around the shop floor to distress them before sending them to Eddie. (There is a pic of 5150 Studio showing a stack of striped bodies laying on the floor.) This particular body for some reason has 5(!) layers of Candy Blue, including black primer, bronze, candy blue, and clear, on each layer! Also notice the neck screw holes were never drilled. The neck looks like it was made yeaterday, and has a pretty unique trussrod configuration that I've never seen before...

These are the actual pics from around 2008. The stickers from the Gibson guys' annotations are still on the parts today.

Image84 template neck 1 by Louie Atienza, on Flickr

Image84 template neck 2 by Louie Atienza, on Flickr

Image84 template neck 3 by Louie Atienza, on Flickr

Image84 template neck 4 by Louie Atienza, on Flickr

Image1984 template body 1 by Louie Atienza, on Flickr

Image1984 template body 2 by Louie Atienza, on Flickr

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The birth of the Kramer 1984

Post by SWANTECH » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:56 pm

Take pictures of the notes.
Place the notes in something safe. Build it into a guitar. Play it.
Other wise it is just a bunch of parts lying around.
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The birth of the Kramer 1984

Post by louieatienza » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:18 pm

I have all the parts... chrome Gotoh 90 deg. tab tuners... even a repro Floyd whale tail. Haven't decided on a pickup yet. My plan is to have the body refinished so it has one layer not five of paint, with matching headstock and gold logo.

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The birth of the Kramer 1984

Post by KickstartMyHeart » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:38 am

Now that is really cool :thumbs . And yes, put ist to good use and make sure the papers don´t get lost.
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Re: The birth of the Kramer 1984

Post by ncelectric » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:24 am

Really cool story/history thanks for sharing

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The birth of the Kramer 1984

Post by sixstring » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:47 am

Build it. :bananahead
But let's face it, someone buys a Kramer b/c it has a Floyd.

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Re: The birth of the Kramer 1984

Post by shwayman11 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:40 pm

Just discovering this thread--super cool! Can you post higher-res pics of Gibson's notes? Would love to read them.

What's the guitar look like these days? Ever end up building it?

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