NGD: Red 1988 Nightswan (my first USA Kramer)

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Re: NGD: Red 1988 Nightswan (my first USA Kramer)

Post by Kramers » Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:23 pm

Congrats! Nothing better than a player! :band
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Re: NGD: Red 1988 Nightswan (my first USA Kramer)

Post by The Golden Camel » Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:10 am

Here's the case it came with:

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I like the case a lot, although its not the best. The hinges are very worn out and the guitar itself fits well but the fit isn't snug enough imo.
Takemebackto84 wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:01 pm Does this leave a black one up for grabs somewhere now !
The black one had actually been posted on this forum before, but I cannot find the thread now. It was an auction, it was worn and the serial number had been sanded down as well as the headstock break by the low e tuner. The seller took the ad down the same evening I had been to look at it, either he sold it, or he decided to keep it. I think the latter might be true as he did mention he wasn't a hundred percent on selling it when I was there.
SWANTECH wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:09 pm I also forgot.
In my opinion. Swapping the pickups out for the Trembucker spaced versions of the Full Shred and JB does make a very significant improvement. I did this to mine. I kept the originals just in case I ever want to switch them back to original.
I've heard switching places of the pickups is a very popular modification, have you tried this?
Kramers wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:23 pm Congrats! Nothing better than a player! :band
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Also a general question, do we know roughly how many original Nightswans were made back in the day? Can't seem to find any info on this.

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Re: NGD: Red 1988 Nightswan (my first USA Kramer)

Post by Mike G » Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:39 am

SWANTECH wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:09 pm I also forgot.
In my opinion. Swapping the pickups out for the Trembucker spaced versions of the Full Shred and JB does make a very significant improvement. I did this to mine. I kept the originals just in case I ever want to switch them back to original.
What kind of improvement have you noticed?
Not far from me one guy sells TB-10. I’d like to try
It instead of stock SH-10 on my Swan. The only question is, if the possible changes worthy 100 bucks ;))

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Re: NGD: Red 1988 Nightswan (my first USA Kramer)

Post by SWANTECH » Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:34 am

Mike G wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:39 am
SWANTECH wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:09 pm I also forgot.
In my opinion. Swapping the pickups out for the Trembucker spaced versions of the Full Shred and JB does make a very significant improvement. I did this to mine. I kept the originals just in case I ever want to switch them back to original.
What kind of improvement have you noticed?
Not far from me one guy sells TB-10. I’d like to try
It instead of stock SH-10 on my Swan. The only question is, if the possible changes worthy 100 bucks ;))
To me it is a vast improvement because the strings are correctly over the pole pieces and in the magnetic field. So better volume, better sustain, better everything. Think of it like trying to sing from the side of a microphone, then singing in front of it correctly.
It is simple. There was never a pickup designed so that it sounded best when the string vibrates off to the side of the pole piece and magnetic field. It is supposed to be over the pole piece. I am not talking about rail pickups.
It is just my opinion that a Trembucker is a giant improvement for any Kramer model that has a straight bridge pickup.

You will hear it. It will be substantial.
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85 Striker 100ST Blk (1st Guitar)
88 Nightswan Sparkle Blue
88 Nigthswan Bolt/Duckling
19 Nightswan Polka Dot
86 Classic III Tele Cream
90 Classic II Tele Cream
90 ProAxe Std CR
89 Sustainer Holo
89 Sustainer Blk
86 Focus 1000 Blk (FS)
90's Spector SSD Blackhawk
89 Glide C2 Blk
86 Focus Classic Snbst
87 Monsters of Rock Baretta 2
87 Pacer Cst 1 Relic
91 Baretta 3 Blk Cherry
88 EE Pro 1 White/Rainbow
89 Grace C1 blue
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Re: NGD: Red 1988 Nightswan (my first USA Kramer)

Post by Mike G » Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:54 am

SWANTECH wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:34 am
Mike G wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:39 am
SWANTECH wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:09 pm I also forgot.
In my opinion. Swapping the pickups out for the Trembucker spaced versions of the Full Shred and JB does make a very significant improvement. I did this to mine. I kept the originals just in case I ever want to switch them back to original.
What kind of improvement have you noticed?
Not far from me one guy sells TB-10. I’d like to try
It instead of stock SH-10 on my Swan. The only question is, if the possible changes worthy 100 bucks ;))
To me it is a vast improvement because the strings are correctly over the pole pieces and in the magnetic field. So better volume, better sustain, better everything. Think of it like trying to sing from the side of a microphone, then singing in front of it correctly.
It is simple. There was never a pickup designed so that it sounded best when the string vibrates off to the side of the pole piece and magnetic field. It is supposed to be over the pole piece. I am not talking about rail pickups.
It is just my opinion that a Trembucker is a giant improvement for any Kramer model that has a straight bridge pickup.

You will hear it. It will be substantial.
Thanks a lot for the comprehensive answer!
So, it’s settled! Good Sound costs more than 100 bucks! :)

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Re: NGD: Red 1988 Nightswan (my first USA Kramer)

Post by SWANTECH » Sat Mar 18, 2023 4:20 pm

In these pic's you can see how the strings line up with the trembucker versions of a Full Shred and JB. I believe they are JB Trembuckers on my reissue, but I forget.
These are my originals. Sparkle Blue, and the Duckling. I saved the originals from the Sparkle but I never had the originals from the Duckling. I think the Duckling might have a standard JB now that I look at it.

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Joe in Detroit
85 Striker 100ST Blk (1st Guitar)
88 Nightswan Sparkle Blue
88 Nigthswan Bolt/Duckling
19 Nightswan Polka Dot
86 Classic III Tele Cream
90 Classic II Tele Cream
90 ProAxe Std CR
89 Sustainer Holo
89 Sustainer Blk
86 Focus 1000 Blk (FS)
90's Spector SSD Blackhawk
89 Glide C2 Blk
86 Focus Classic Snbst
87 Monsters of Rock Baretta 2
87 Pacer Cst 1 Relic
91 Baretta 3 Blk Cherry
88 EE Pro 1 White/Rainbow
89 Grace C1 blue
01 Music Yo Explorer
89 Baretta 2 FF red

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