84/85 Baretta floyd rose recess hack restore

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Re: 84/85 Baretta floyd rose recess hack restore

Post by ColoradoRandy » Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:35 pm

Thanks guys! I have lots of reading to do!
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Re: 84/85 Baretta floyd rose recess hack restore

Post by marsmountain » Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:36 pm

Dirty D wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:01 am
For me, I might be more inclined to just use a proper router template to square everything off so all the recessed lines are straight and symmetrical, use the post inserts like they are.....
My thought exactly.

I’ll give you $51.50 for it right now and then I’ll make it a sweet player.
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Re: 84/85 Baretta floyd rose recess hack restore

Post by ColoradoRandy » Sun Mar 12, 2023 10:39 am

Dirty D wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:01 am
I’ll give you $51.50 for it right now and then I’ll make it a sweet player.
LOL, nah. I had one of these brand new in 84 so it's got some sentimental value to me. I'm going to do my best to repair the original body. I may buy a replacement body for a temp solution so I can play it a bit. Anyone make a decent, accurate repro body for an 84 era 'retta?
Too many guitars!
1953 tele
1984/1985 Kramer Baretta
1983 Kramer Pacer Deluxe mutt
2005 Charvel EVH Arts
2006 Fender QMT strat
2009 Schecter limited edition C1
2019 Taylor 814CE
2017 Taylor T5z
2020 Custom luthier built tele

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Re: 84/85 Baretta floyd rose recess hack restore

Post by sixstring » Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:58 pm

But let's face it, someone buys a Kramer b/c it has a Floyd.

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Re: 84/85 Baretta floyd rose recess hack restore

Post by ColoradoRandy » Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:10 pm

Ok Kramer gurus,
after weighing this out, I think this guitar really deserves a shot at being restored. Problem is, I don't want to destroy the body trying to do an amateur job. Any recommendations of who can properly repair and refinish this thing? Looks like originally had the gold base paint with a red top coat which is how I understand the red was done.

I'd prefer to find someone close to Denver if possible but ultimately I would love to get it in the hands to someone who knows Kramer's and how to do it properly!

Thanks everyone!
Too many guitars!
1953 tele
1984/1985 Kramer Baretta
1983 Kramer Pacer Deluxe mutt
2005 Charvel EVH Arts
2006 Fender QMT strat
2009 Schecter limited edition C1
2019 Taylor 814CE
2017 Taylor T5z
2020 Custom luthier built tele

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Re: 84/85 Baretta floyd rose recess hack restore

Post by leftykramerguy » Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:34 am

Whatever you do. Don't fill the cavity with epoxy, marbles, screws, coins, and washers. Then glue wedding pictures all over it, and epoxy over the photo's. That is not a good look.

I hope to live a lot longer on this Earth. Of the many things I have seen and may see in the future; I shall never forget the weddingSwan. It should be your avatar photo. :not
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Re: 84/85 Baretta floyd rose recess hack restore

Post by SWANTECH » Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:00 am

leftykramerguy wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:34 am Whatever you do. Don't fill the cavity with epoxy, marbles, screws, coins, and washers. Then glue wedding pictures all over it, and epoxy over the photo's. That is not a good look.

I hope to live a lot longer on this Earth. Of the many things I have seen and may see in the future; I shall never forget the weddingSwan. It should be your avatar photo. :not
It is. The Duckling is the bolt Swan in front. After restoration.
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Re: 84/85 Baretta floyd rose recess hack restore

Post by SWANTECH » Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:06 am

ColoradoRandy wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:10 pm Ok Kramer gurus,
after weighing this out, I think this guitar really deserves a shot at being restored. Problem is, I don't want to destroy the body trying to do an amateur job. Any recommendations of who can properly repair and refinish this thing? Looks like originally had the gold base paint with a red top coat which is how I understand the red was done.

I'd prefer to find someone close to Denver if possible but ultimately I would love to get it in the hands to someone who knows Kramer's and how to do it properly!

Thanks everyone!
I would love to help but just can't right now. It will be a few months before the shop is done being built. Then I can start taking on full time difficult restorations.
Joe in Detroit
85 Striker 100ST Blk (1st Guitar)
88 Nightswan Sparkle Blue
88 Nightswan Holoflash
88 Nigthswan Bolt/Duckling
19 Nightswan Polka Dot
88 Stagemaster T Blue
86 Classic III Tele Cream
90 Classic II Tele Cream
90 ProAxe Std CR
89 Sustainer Holo
89 Sustainer Blk
86 Focus 1000 Blk (FS)
90's Spector SSD Blackhawk
89 Glide C2 Blk
86 Focus Classic Snbst
87 Monsters of Rock Baretta 2
87 Pacer Cst 1 Relic
89 Pacer Cst 2 Blk
91 Baretta 3 Blk Cherry
88 EE Pro 1 White/Rainbow
89 Grace C1 blue
01 Music Yo Explorer
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Re: 84/85 Baretta floyd rose recess hack restore

Post by leftykramerguy » Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:59 pm

SWANTECH wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:00 am
leftykramerguy wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:34 am Whatever you do. Don't fill the cavity with epoxy, marbles, screws, coins, and washers. Then glue wedding pictures all over it, and epoxy over the photo's. That is not a good look.

I hope to live a lot longer on this Earth. Of the many things I have seen and may see in the future; I shall never forget the weddingSwan. It should be your avatar photo. :not
It is. The Duckling is the bolt Swan in front. After restoration.

I want to see the BEFORE picture…every time I visit this site.

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84 Focus 3000 Blue
85 Ferrington KFS-2 Black
86 Ferrington KFS-2 Sunburst
86 Focus 1000 White
86 Focus 2000 Blue
87 Focus 1000 Black
87 Focus 6000 Black
87 American Pacer Custom I FlipFlop Blue
87 ZX30 Red
88 Focus 700ST Bass Blue
2000 FR-422SML Red

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Re: 84/85 Baretta floyd rose recess hack restore

Post by ColoradoRandy » Mon May 08, 2023 10:08 am

Well, after a lengthy debate (with myself) about saving this one, it's en-route to Vinny at Vince Michael Guitars for some expert love.

If I get any, I'll post some pics of the magic as it happens!

Very excited to see this one live again. I know it will be in good hands.
Too many guitars!
1953 tele
1984/1985 Kramer Baretta
1983 Kramer Pacer Deluxe mutt
2005 Charvel EVH Arts
2006 Fender QMT strat
2009 Schecter limited edition C1
2019 Taylor 814CE
2017 Taylor T5z
2020 Custom luthier built tele

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