Should I Buy A Gorki?

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Re: Should I Buy A Gorki?

Post by Kramers » Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:30 pm

ShredNYC wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:13 pm Btw, what the hell were Kramer thinking when they thought a band from the USSR would be the "next big thing"??
I hear you, but not everything is so black and white.

Like wasn't the Moscow Music Peace Festival part of Doc McGhee's deal with the Feds so that he wouldn't have to do all that prison time for his role in a major international drug trafficking operation?

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/doc-mcg ... marijuana/

They said it was to help curb illegal drug use in the USSR, but we all know the US Feds don't care about drug use in Russia... lol. They care about subverting communism through western influence like rebellious rock music.

With that in mind, I could see the gorki park being part of some deal with an external influence. Just speculation, because yeah, it doesn't make much sense financially, especially with the politics involved, but what do I know? Was Kramer involved? Is that why they folded? Seems outlandish, but anymore outlandish than the actual involvement of Manuel Noriega? This wasn't small potatoes.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/

I'm a little surprised this hasn't been talked about more here. It's a pretty juicy story all around.
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Re: Should I Buy A Gorki?

Post by marsmountain » Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:44 pm

Obviously the geopolitical situation of the time was a factor, but I think it can be summed up as simply as this:

1. The Berlin Wall had just come down and the western world and the free nations of Europe were all caught up in the “magic of the moment” (to quote the Scorpions).

2. The Soviet Union was in its death throes and the Russians citizens were hungry for “freedom” and the excesses of western civilization.

4. John Bon Jovi - at the top of his game in 1989-90 and a Kramer endorser with considerable sway was promoting and producing the band Gorky Park and their debut album in the USA.

5. Kramer Guitars was a promoter of the Moscow Peace Festival and already had a long and troublesome history of terrible marketing and management decisions which ultimately ending with the company filing for bankruptcy by the end of the year.

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Re: Should I Buy A Gorki?

Post by Kramers » Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:32 pm

Great synopsis Mars!
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Re: Should I Buy A Gorki?

Post by Kramers » Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:41 pm

LA Times story on GP and the political situation and such.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm ... story.html

I didn't realize Stas Namin put together GP. It was also he who worked with McGee (Bon Jovi manager) to create the Peace Festival.
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Re: Should I Buy A Gorki?

Post by Mike G » Thu Nov 24, 2022 4:04 pm

It'd be very interesting to find one of the USA made set-neck Gorky Park guitars... According to the descriptions they were a real Custom Shop! But it's next to impossible now...
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