NGD 83/84 Pacer Deluxe w/ extra maple 8)

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Queen Beef
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NGD 83/84 Pacer Deluxe w/ extra maple 8)

Post by Queen Beef » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:20 pm

Found this pup on Guitar Center used for 450 shipped. The fretboard is real dirty (it was super gross when I got it. Who doesn't clean ANY of their finger gunk off their guitar???), but the neck is nice and smooth w/ a nice satin finish. I don't know what SD is in the bridge, but I'm very pleasantly surprised with how nice it sounds!

Based on what I've read on vintage Kramer, these necks with just the logo were supposed to be satin finished and with late C plates right? This one is C4338. The other thing i find interesting is the two piece maple neck. It's got a real thin fretboard like the rosewood one on the 83 Voyager neck. Anyone seen that before with a maple FB? I thought they all had skunk stripes. It does have some nice birds eyes on there, though. 8)

I'm real happy with this one. It was quite the score. :^)

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1984 Kramer Pacer Deluxe
1988 Carvin V220
1988 Washburn EC29
1990 Ibanez RG560
1994 Jackson Professional Rhoads STD
1994 Jackson Dinky Reverse
2000 Ibanez RG7420
2012 Blindworm Pendulum
2013 Kramer Forum Tribute Guitar
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NGD 83/84 Pacer Deluxe w/ extra maple 8)

Post by sixstring » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:32 pm

That be a R5 Sports neck. R2 had the skunk stripe.

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NGD 83/84 Pacer Deluxe w/ extra maple 8)

Post by Queen Beef » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:09 am

I really like the profile on this one compared to the Voyager neck. This one has a flatter back and more shoulder, but still isn't super thin like an Ibanez. It reminds me of my Hamer Scarab neck that I loved from about 5 or 6 years ago.

Thanks for the info! That explains the difference. :toast
1984 Kramer Pacer Deluxe
1988 Carvin V220
1988 Washburn EC29
1990 Ibanez RG560
1994 Jackson Professional Rhoads STD
1994 Jackson Dinky Reverse
2000 Ibanez RG7420
2012 Blindworm Pendulum
2013 Kramer Forum Tribute Guitar
20?? Carvin DC747

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NGD 83/84 Pacer Deluxe w/ extra maple 8)

Post by Frunobulax » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:21 am

Congrats, those R5 Sports necks have my preference shapewise lately. Real great feel, sound and look on them! You got a deal imho. :thumbs

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Post by Dirty D » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:15 am

:thumbs
Love it! Maple body?
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Post by Queen Beef » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:52 am

I don't think it's a maple body. So maybe not too much extra maple. 8)

He's not a real Big Boy. :beer
1984 Kramer Pacer Deluxe
1988 Carvin V220
1988 Washburn EC29
1990 Ibanez RG560
1994 Jackson Professional Rhoads STD
1994 Jackson Dinky Reverse
2000 Ibanez RG7420
2012 Blindworm Pendulum
2013 Kramer Forum Tribute Guitar
20?? Carvin DC747

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Post by _xxx_ » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:44 am

The body should be maple, though there were also some alder bodies. Nice score :thumbs

I find those necks a bit too fat for my taste, but they sound awesome. Nice chunk of quality rock maple, gives some crazy sustain.

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Post by wizball » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:16 am

Nice score :headbang
'83 Pacer Special, Spiderweb
'85 Retta, Black
'86 Retta, White
'87 Retta, The Fly
'88 Retta, Guitarship
'14 Pacer Classic, white, modded

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Post by KickstartMyHeart » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:00 am

Yummy drool .
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Post by sixstring » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:43 am

Forgot to add that these were oiled with no finish. :thumbs
But let's face it, someone buys a Kramer b/c it has a Floyd.

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