NGBD- Kramer American Pacer Custom

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Post by LhKramerLunatic » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:27 pm

leftykramerguy wrote:LHKL, saw that one too. Nice score. :thumbs Now I have to beat you to the other pieces to complete mine. :poke
Right!!! its so hard findingood lefty parts,and i like ur reverse mape neck thing u got goin,cant imaginen they made to many of those!!

ive got 3 american lefty necks,no maples,never even seen one,except in pics.
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Post by LhKramerLunatic » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:30 pm

Sirion wrote:Is this one of the 24 fret Pacers that were never released? (I have THREE of them) Notice that the "shelf" that the bridge mounting screws are attached are just recessed a little bit – not nearly as much as the rest of the recess. I don't think I've seen that on any of the 22 fret models?
ive got another lefty with the barely recessed, floyd and regular beretta like cavity cover,with 2 singles and a slanted hum,with 1 vol and 3 toggels and it came with a 22 fret american neck bound only at the headstock.
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Post by leftykramerguy » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:23 pm

2112 wrote:
leftykramerguy wrote:


What I plan on it looking like down the road except for a maple lefty board (if I ever find one)
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Was that the only lefty maple neck known to exist that you made righty? :twisted:

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Post by Sirion » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:32 pm

LhKramerLunatic wrote:
Sirion wrote:Is this one of the 24 fret Pacers that were never released? (I have THREE of them) Notice that the "shelf" that the bridge mounting screws are attached are just recessed a little bit – not nearly as much as the rest of the recess. I don't think I've seen that on any of the 22 fret models?
ive got another lefty with the barely recessed, floyd and regular beretta like cavity cover,with 2 singles and a slanted hum,with 1 vol and 3 toggels and it came with a 22 fret american neck bound only at the headstock.
I've never seen those "in the wild", but I am sure you are right, because I just found a photo of one of mine, and it obviously isn't the same body type:

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Notice the lack of room between the neck pup and neck pocket.
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Post by LhKramerLunatic » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:43 pm

Sirion wrote:
LhKramerLunatic wrote:
Sirion wrote:Is this one of the 24 fret Pacers that were never released? (I have THREE of them) Notice that the "shelf" that the bridge mounting screws are attached are just recessed a little bit – not nearly as much as the rest of the recess. I don't think I've seen that on any of the 22 fret models?
ive got another lefty with the barely recessed, floyd and regular beretta like cavity cover,with 2 singles and a slanted hum,with 1 vol and 3 toggels and it came with a 22 fret american neck bound only at the headstock.
I've never seen those "in the wild", but I am sure you are right, because I just found a photo of one of mine, and it obviously isn't the same body type:

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Notice the lack of room between the neck pup and neck pocket.

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here is my 86/87 pacer custom, 1 volumn 3 toggles,i acquired,somebogy had filled the holes and toggle holes,this is the neck that came with it. i still havent decided on how to fix it,dont have a router and dont feel very good about tdoin it myself so its been sittin.

(in the pic u can see how close the top pup is to the neck pocket)


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the bound neck with dots is the one that came with this body,the other is off my 86/87 pacer imperial
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Post by LhKramerLunatic » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:54 pm

leftykramerguy wrote:
2112 wrote:
leftykramerguy wrote:


What I plan on it looking like down the road except for a maple lefty board (if I ever find one)
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Was that the only lefty maple neck known to exist that you made righty? :twisted:

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this is the bound 86 after cleanup sunday

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Post by 2112 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:56 am

leftykramerguy wrote:
2112 wrote:
leftykramerguy wrote:


Was that the only lefty maple neck known to exist that you made righty? :twisted:

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It was a lefty that I re-logo'd for a reverse righty

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Post by leftykramerguy » Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:35 am

leftykramerguy wrote:Two of these popped up on eBay. Made an offer on the blue one and it sold. Made an offer on this one and got it. KramerRoy saw it and says it looks like the bodies that came out of Neptune in the late 80s. It would not bother me if it was a Focus 6000 body but I would like the experts opinions here.

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What I plan on it looking like down the road except for a maple lefty board (if I ever find one) and gold hardware.


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Amazing what some Murphy's Oil Soap and some lemon oil can do. :thumbs

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Post by LhKramerLunatic » Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:57 pm

freakin looks spectacular brother!!

gonna be sweet ass lefty kramer when ur done.
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