New Kramer line

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Craig Johnson
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Post by Craig Johnson » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:57 am

_xxx_ wrote:I mean high-end as in regular ESP Horizon (being like a "real" Stagemaster) or US HSS Strat ( = Pacer), not some $3k custom shop stuff.

I agree with your reasoning but just don't think Gibson is willing to take a risk with no immediate/fast reward visible.

I know they won't do it. They're using the Kramer brand as a way to write off a loss to offset profits in the Gibson lines. It's nothing more than a tax situation for them. Which, is a shame.
1986 Focus 1000 "Spidey"
1984 Pacer Special Custom Paint (Won on the Kramer Forum)
1999 Baretta (Holoflash)
1985 Baretta
1990 Baretta 1 Klein Naked lady reverse bound headstock
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Post by DoctorScary » Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:51 am

Craig Johnson wrote: Wow. I guess I'm just particular. So Dr. Scary you're saying the Vintage Pacer is their best playing model they have out now? They're relatively cheap when you find them.
Sorry, guys. I somehow lost track of this post.

I actually use the Pacer Classic. Not the Pacer Vintage. To be honest the Pacer VINTAGE is the better guitar. But the weight is not something I personally can handle for three hours a night. They are maple bodies. I use the Pacer Classics because they are lighter and I enjoy the Mahogany warmth. That is the Pink one Kevin did for me back then and it is still my daily driver. However I am REALLY digging the Candy Red SM-1 that I now have. I understand that you wanted it to be closer to the original but I actually like the SM-1 better than an original Stage Master. (don't flame me. hahaha)

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Post by Craig Johnson » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:21 pm

Flame on!!!!
My problem with the SM-1 is the neck. Not the look or tone although the tone is different. Maybe from newer electronics and pickups. I did finally get my Stagey back. I'm loving it. The Pacer Classics are relatively cheap around here. I'm not a fan of the big c radius necks or the R5 necks either. I'm not as good of a player as most though. My Pacer Special is heavy as hell too. I get a headache after about an hour of playing it.
1986 Focus 1000 "Spidey"
1984 Pacer Special Custom Paint (Won on the Kramer Forum)
1999 Baretta (Holoflash)
1985 Baretta
1990 Baretta 1 Klein Naked lady reverse bound headstock
Stagemaster Deluxe "Guido"

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Post by kosmo » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:39 pm

Headache? Ear plugs? Don't turn it up to 11? shrug

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Post by KickstartMyHeart » Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:58 am

kosmo wrote:Headache? Ear plugs? Don't turn it up to 11? shrug
From the weight of the axe - not from volume of amp :toast .
Practice cures most tone issues.

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Post by DoctorScary » Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:54 am

The Pacer classics are very cheap for what they are. Best bang for the buk PERIOD is the Baretta Special. I have 8 of them. They are perfect for in the studio and having them set up for all different tunings/pickup configs (although most are the stock pickup). :thumbs

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Post by Craig Johnson » Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:59 pm

KickstartMyHeart wrote:
kosmo wrote:Headache? Ear plugs? Don't turn it up to 11? shrug
From the weight of the axe - not from volume of amp :toast .
Lol. Yes! Although I'm not against rattling the windows!
1986 Focus 1000 "Spidey"
1984 Pacer Special Custom Paint (Won on the Kramer Forum)
1999 Baretta (Holoflash)
1985 Baretta
1990 Baretta 1 Klein Naked lady reverse bound headstock
Stagemaster Deluxe "Guido"

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