So I took my '84 cream Baretta apart...

Discussion about wooden neck Kramer guitars made in the USA and American Series.
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louieatienza
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So I took my '84 cream Baretta apart...

Post by louieatienza » Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:16 pm

...because it was in its case for two years, and still had string on it from 10 years ago. Prior to sitting in its case she was hanging on the wall of my office room at my prior home. Needed a cleaning and once-over. So I thought I'd take some pics to document some things. Oddly, I never took it apart before this.

The body... Has the shorter forearm bevel. Oddly, there are two countersunk holes UNDER the neckplate, that correspond with two holes at the neck heel. Don't know if it was used for setup purposes, or modded for added neck stability? Also some markings with a permanent marker:
Image20180322_152031 by Louie Atienza, on Flickr
Image20180322_152104 by Louie Atienza, on Flickr

Back of neck. It's very clean - I received it that way, and apparently the previous owner "slicked" it with 1500 grit. Well, a couple years after I got it, I noticed it was out of tune and the high E and B were fretting out. Yes, had the dreaded scarf joint slip. Well, I was able to heat and separate the entire headstock piece from fretboard and neck, enough where I could "floss" the mating areas with sandpaper to remove as much glue as possible, then reglued it. Lined up so well that there was very little sanding to touch up. But after that, I always slicked it myself with a white Scoptch Brite pad after playing, so it always stayed clean!
Image20180322_152552 by Louie Atienza, on Flickr

Paint is pretty clean, save for a couple nicks here and there... Barrel jack looks to have been smashed in at one time. The back of the neck may be clean, and I did clean the frets and fretboard, but you can see the wear running down the entire fretboard. This thing was played...
Image20180322_153629 by Louie Atienza, on Flickr

Miscellaneous parts: sanding screen used for shim (though I removed it since the neck lines up well without it), the R5 nut (though the neck actually measures 1.8" at the nut), neckplate with "Kramer" logo full stamped, no Made in USA, no serial number...
Image20180322_152514 by Louie Atienza, on Flickr

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So I took my '84 cream Baretta apart...

Post by louieatienza » Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:18 pm

Scarf joint area... solid as a rock, and virtually undetectable that it ever moved in the first place. A very faint line at the treble side that probably would have sanded off, but that would have changed the profile.
Image20180322_152605 by Louie Atienza, on Flickr

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So I took my '84 cream Baretta apart...

Post by sixstring » Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:39 pm

Plate like this?

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VK says it may be artist or one-off.
http://vintagekramer.com/parts2.htm
But let's face it, someone buys a Kramer b/c it has a Floyd.

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So I took my '84 cream Baretta apart...

Post by louieatienza » Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:49 pm

sixstring wrote:Plate like this?

Image

VK says it may be artist or one-off.
http://vintagekramer.com/parts2.htm
Yes same style, though not as worn...

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So I took my '84 cream Baretta apart...

Post by Dirty D » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:37 pm

Wow, that's pretty cool! Don't know if I've ever actually seen one of those neck plates.
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Classic II red Tele
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So I took my '84 cream Baretta apart...

Post by louieatienza » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:58 pm

Doc wrote:Wow, that's pretty cool! Don't know if I've ever actually seen one of those neck plates.
I've seen one, with a serial number, a long while back... might have even been a Holy Grail...

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So I took my '84 cream Baretta apart...

Post by KickstartMyHeart » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:02 am

Nice one :thumbs .
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So I took my '84 cream Baretta apart...

Post by louieatienza » Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:26 am

KickstartMyHeart wrote:Nice one :thumbs .
Thanks!

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