84 Kramer Pacer Imperial

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Re: 84 Kramer Pacer Imperial

Post by OneInTheChamber » Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:21 am

HowlinWolf wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:17 am
I have a Pacer similar to that but in trans red. It is sitting in a case as I prefer playing my other Kramers at the moment, especially my Japanese ones. It is definitely not a parts guitar if it came out of the factory that way, or else every guitar that has ever out is a parts guitar if you look at it that way. You cannot fault that Pacer for its looks... it looks great and congrats to the new owner. :headbang
Everyone has the right to define anything in their own mind the way they want.

Technically if a guitar is made from a neck crafted by one luthier and a body manufactured by a different luthier that its a parts guitar.

Fullerton made Fenders were not parts guitars.
Gibson guitars made in Kalamazoo, Michigan not parts guitars
Kramer guitars where the body and neck are manufactured by Sports not parts guitars
Kramer guitars where both parts manufactured by ESP not parts guitars
etc.

Early Kramers with ESP Strat head necks and bodies made elsewhere but painted at the same paint shop = parts guitars
Kramers Pacers with ESP beak necks and bodies made elsewhere = parts guitars
1983 Kramer Baretta with Holy Grail ESP non-tilt neck and body made elsewhere = parts guitar

not to say any of these guitars dont rock

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Re: 84 Kramer Pacer Imperial

Post by HowlinWolf » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:46 am

Well let's just call them factory originals then. :bananahead
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Re: 84 Kramer Pacer Imperial

Post by Pcruis1 » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:30 pm

HowlinWolf wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:46 am
Well let's just call them factory originals then. :bananahead
That's accurate for sure. When I think parts guitar, I do not equate same with something that came from the factory and has not been altered by the original (or subsequent) purchaser. Almost all electric guitars contain parts that are not made by the company manufacturing the guitar, e.g., tuners, trems, bridges, pickups, wires, pots, switches, knobs, straps pins, pickup rings, fret wire, etc.
1981 Pacer Strat Head White
1981 Pacer Strat Head Walnut
1981 Pacer Strat Head Graphic
1981 Pacer Strat Head Sunburst
1982 Pacer Graphic Beak
83/86 Mutt Pacer - TransRed Beak
1984 Pacer Candy Red Hockey

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Re: 84 Kramer Pacer Imperial

Post by _xxx_ » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:54 pm

According to that logic almost every guitar is a "parts" guitar... though they are all built from "parts".

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Re: 84 Kramer Pacer Imperial

Post by RockStringBender » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:39 pm

I had a RSB moment when I saw that definition of a Kramer :evil

I'm glad I backed off and let the adults respond :yourock
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Re: 84 Kramer Pacer Imperial

Post by sixstring » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:08 pm

RockStringBender wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:39 pm
I had a RSB moment when I saw that definition of a Kramer :evil

I'm glad I backed off and let the adults respond :yourock
Way to show some restraint Bob!! dielaughing
But let's face it, someone buys a Kramer b/c it has a Floyd.

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Re: 84 Kramer Pacer Imperial

Post by RockStringBender » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:20 pm

My momma always said stupid is what stupid does :jump
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Re: 84 Kramer Pacer Imperial

Post by Full Crib » Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:47 am

RockStringBender wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:39 pm
I had a RSB moment when I saw that definition of a Kramer :evil

I'm glad I backed off and let the adults respond :yourock
dielaughing dielaughing :roll
Is this the "new Bob"?

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Re: 84 Kramer Pacer Imperial

Post by RockStringBender » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:41 pm

look everyone, I wasn't trying to be a dick in the old daze/////


I was just being myself dielaughing :bang :alien :jump
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Re: 84 Kramer Pacer Imperial

Post by KickstartMyHeart » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:37 am

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