Music Yo Kramers. I just don't understand.

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Post by SWANTECH » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:42 pm

I am new to this forum, but not new to guitars. I just don't get the Music Yo Kramers. Some models like the Imperial were kind of cool. I see listings all the time on EBAY for ridiculous prices. Why would anyone buy these Gibson/Epiphone nock off's and not the REAL thing?
I have been around a while and have seen Gibson destroy every cool brand they ever bought, and owned.
Does this person really think they are going to get 2k for this guitar? I have a Korean made Striker they can have for $1,500.00 LOL. To top it off. The guitar doesn't even have the correct shape, or routing as a REAL Baretta.
I just do not get it. Never will. shrug
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MusicYo-by-Gib ... Swa8dZxC8j

If that guitar is worth 2k than the real 83-85 Baretta'a should be worth 5 times as much.
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Post by Fireful0 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:48 pm

Welcome!
Honestly, I have no idea. I would always much rather have the original, not some reissue, especially at these outrageous prices.
Just a dude who loves Kramer and PRS guitars.

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Post by KickstartMyHeart » Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:34 am

SWANTECH wrote:The guitar doesn't even have the correct shape, or routing as a REAL Baretta.
I just do not get it. Never will. shrug
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MusicYo-by-Gib ... Swa8dZxC8j
That is because it´s not a Baretta at all shrug . It´s an 84 model from MusicYo.

In the Yo era there have been a couple of awesome re-issues. Namely the Baretta 85 RI (2006) and the Pacer Imperial 83 RI (2008) which where incredible bang for the buck with premium parts such as Gibson pups, OFRs and Schaller hardware. American woods for neck and body and assembled in the USA. My Imp 08 RI is beautifully lightweight with its poplar body and screams like a banshee with the Gibby pups. Even though the shape is not 100 per cent period correct it gives my 83 Imp a good run for the money and the necks on those are totally awesome.

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08 RI

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And then there were the 84 (like the above) and the Jersey Star (basically a Sambo RI with a thicker neck) with the same premium ingredients.

Are any of those Yo models worth the dough that some sellers seem to ask nowadays? In terms of quality and compared to what you can get from other manufacturers out there in the range between 1 and 2K my opinion is YES. In terms of them being simple Kramers and basically clons or copies most people would say NO. Would I pay 2K for a pristine Yo 84 if I had the budget right now? Probably not because I´d try my luck first here and then in the KF groups on FB.

The Yo 84s and the Yo Baretta RIs are miles ahead of the Kribson MIK 84s and Baretta Vintage models.
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Post by sixstring » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:27 am

KickstartMyHeart wrote:
The Yo 84s and the Yo Baretta RIs are miles ahead of the Kribson MIK 84s and Baretta Vintage models.
This.
But let's face it, someone buys a Kramer b/c it has a Floyd.

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Post by _xxx_ » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:02 am

I very much liked the Yo 84 I had, it was top notch and really good woods used. Killer tone too, just the neck was as thick as a baseball bat (not a bad thing as such but a big difference to the original).

As for the Gibsons, first touch with that awful, sticky finish and I was already done with them. Let alone the mis-shaping of the headstock and neck at the joint with the Imp clone, just horrible.

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Post by 2112 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:47 am

I've had numerous 'original' Imperials. Not one of them came close to the feel and sound of my '08 RI's.

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Been my #1 since the day I got it

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Post by SWANTECH » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:59 pm

You folks have done a good job educating me. I thought they were all Korean made stuff.
Still. I am a nostalgic person. I will buy the originals. I also have a new appreciation for some of these Music yo Kramers.
Thanks.
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Post by wizball » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:43 pm

2112 wrote:I've had numerous 'original' Imperials. Not one of them came close to the feel and sound of my '08 RI's.

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Post by moshpit817 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:13 am

I had a neck through Music yo Kramer,it had the Quad rail pickups,factory Gotoh tuners..I swapped out the factory Kramer branded Floyd to a real german Floyd rose and put some seymour Duncan pickups in it,after that it played and sounded awesome !It had incredible sustain and articulation and lots of natural resonance..I sold it but regret it..I paid $150 for it and it played and sounded great.

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Post by gtr1963 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:29 am

I got a 404Fr Yo Baretta. I too put dimarzio pickups and an original floyd, had new electronics installed, and it still plays like a dream. In fact, it's my main go to guitar and I have an 85 baretta as a backup.

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