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Post by LhKramerLunatic » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:17 pm

Got a choice of a peavey suspeme 160 head and peavey the peavey vtm straight cab with the ceslestion gk 85s for 250$ cash decent condition and all working or

A peavey 6505+ 112 combo for 375$

Any opinions at all? I really not a ss amp guy,but i really want the cab,lol
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Post by _xxx_ » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:44 pm

6505 of course.

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Post by LhKramerLunatic » Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:09 pm

_xxx_ wrote:6505 of course.
well i just bought a mint xxx head for 325 cash,so i can run my el34s wich i happen to luv! lol
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Post by _xxx_ » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:09 am

Even better! As you know xxx is my main amp and also my all-time favorite :)

I actually prefer the 6L6 in those though, sound better IMO, kinda heavier and with better definition.

There were some issues with bias settings with EL34 in some 100W tops, so make sure to have a tech set the correct bias if you move to EL34. See here: https://www.eurotubes.com/store/pc/peav ... 20page.htm


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Post by LhKramerLunatic » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:03 am

_xxx_ wrote:Even better! As you know xxx is my main amp and also my all-time favorite :)

I actually prefer the 6L6 in those though, sound better IMO, kinda heavier and with better definition.

There were some issues with bias settings with EL34 in some 100W tops, so make sure to have a tech set the correct bias if you move to EL34. See here: https://www.eurotubes.com/store/pc/peav ... 20page.htm


Right on,thx ill check out the 6's first,thx xxx
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Post by _xxx_ » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:29 am

The tone in these comes 90% from the preamp anyway, I don't think you'll ever need to turn it up so loud to push the power tubes into overdrive (unless you want to tear down the house or such).

That said, the choice of box will change the sound much more than the tubes. I really like the speakers originaly used by Peavey (I think they were called Black Scorpion). I tried the Celestion Classic30 and didn't like the result at all, it was kinda too "vintage" for this amp and took away some punch. But it should work well with any aggressive, modern sounding speaker.

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Post by 9am53 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:55 am

My peavey renown melted the speaker coil on a Scorpion 12". its now a "head" lol

Ive read that the XXX speakers are quite close to V30's
It may not be long, but it sure is skinny!

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Post by LhKramerLunatic » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:10 am

_xxx_ wrote:The tone in these comes 90% from the preamp anyway, I don't think you'll ever need to turn it up so loud to push the power tubes into overdrive (unless you want to tear down the house or such).

That said, the choice of box will change the sound much more than the tubes. I really like the speakers originaly used by Peavey (I think they were called Black Scorpion). I tried the Celestion Classic30 and didn't like the result at all, it was kinda too "vintage" for this amp and took away some punch. But it should work well with any aggressive, modern sounding speaker.
Ive got a marshall 1960 b cab 2002

Ans ive got a mesa slant mid 90s with v30s

Also have the peavey cab i just got with the gk 85s

One has got to sound brutal,lol
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Post by _xxx_ » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:12 pm

9am53 wrote:My peavey renown melted the speaker coil on a Scorpion 12". its now a "head" lol

Ive read that the XXX speakers are quite close to V30's
Right, I meant Vintage30, not "classic". Not even remotely alike tone-wise, at least those used in my combo. I think the later models used some other speakers though, maybe even Celestion.

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