FAKE Pacer, beware

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Post by louieatienza » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:34 pm

80sChris wrote:
9am53 wrote:What "notch" on the ower left side am I looking at? I think this swoopy body shape is really sick...sports body eh? Ive tried to find a notch but cant seem to find one.
Just above the spring anchor on this photo, like the router template wasn't quite right:

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I have a theory that possibly, when Kramer started using Floyds, and Eddie was running them with two springs, extra length was needed in the spring cavity, and thus the pattern was modified.

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Post by Pcruis1 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:40 pm

Just looked at a couple of my Pacers. Never noticed that b4. Good stuff
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Post by KickstartMyHeart » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:15 am

I´ve been watching that one since it popped up. That´s a mutt and is clearly labeled as such. No deception shrug .

That is a Sports body with a Pacer neck and pretty good ingredients for the rest of the guitar. Re-sale value in parts would cover the price.

So, nothing fake or to beware of in the description imo.

In that price range you´d be hard pressed to find a guitar of any current production line model of any other brand that would be better quality wise in Germany, that is.

Edit: Just saw, that the seller raised the price considerably since I last looked. That is a bit steep, even for Germany.
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Post by sixstring » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:48 am

Better shape than some original ones and may play better at that price.
It's a parts guitar & can be treated as such. :hit
But let's face it, someone buys a Kramer b/c it has a Floyd.

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Post by _xxx_ » Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:05 pm

At that BIN price, I'd sell you my burst Imp without thinking twice... with a real Pacer neck and case included.

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Post by LhKramerLunatic » Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:28 pm

sale ended..... shrug scratch_head
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Post by KickstartMyHeart » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:59 pm

_xxx_ wrote:At that BIN price, I'd sell you my burst Imp without thinking twice... with a real Pacer neck and case included.
Well, which bin do you mean? He started with 550 Euros. The second try was 995 - which I found pretty brash (see my comment above). Now he is back at a bin of 530.

In that ballpark I find this guitar really not expensive. It´s just that I don´t need another guitar otherwise I would take your offer, drove to Benzeville and gave you the 480 (bin minus ebay fee) in cash tomorrow.

But since I just drove back from Switzerland this morning I really don´t feel like doing that shrug .
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Post by KickstartMyHeart » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:02 pm

LhKramerLunatic wrote:sale ended..... shrug scratch_head
Nope, he did a short one and tried a hilarious 995 in that. It´s still on with a bin realistic bin of 530.
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Post by _xxx_ » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:41 pm

I only saw the latter. And it is definitely a Focus neck.

You can have mine for 650 plus actual shipping, last chance before it goes to eBay in parts.

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Post by Pcruis1 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:57 pm

_xxx_ wrote:I only saw the latter. And it is definitely a Focus neck.

You can have mine for 650 plus actual shipping, last chance before it goes to eBay in parts.
1981 Pacer Strat Head White
1981 Pacer Strat Head Walnut
1981 Pacer Strat Head Graphic
1981 Pacer Strat Head Sunburst
1982 Pacer Graphic Beak
83/86 Mutt Pacer - TransRed Beak
1984 Pacer Candy Red Hockey

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