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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:56 pm 
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This just showed up. Something looks off to me. I've looked at a bunch of Focus 3000 bodies, and they all have the flat butt, but this is more rounded. Also the neck looks legit for Focus 3000 and proper chrome hdwr, but why do you suppose the Floyd is black? Obviously it's been worked on given the EMGs.
I don't recognize he stamp code from the neck pocket, anybody able to translate?
I'm not really looking to buy anything right now, and this is out in Bumfvckegypt, but if the lower part might be what I'm wondering about...
Anybody wanna speculate?
https://modesto.craigslist.org/msg/d/1985-kramer-focus-3000/6561845817.html

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:17 pm 
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It's a mutt? Dunno if that's a Kramer body to begin with.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:39 pm 
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I'm texting with seller, who will send pic of the neck plate when he gets home from work tonight. He said the neck plate is the one that's stamped "Made in Japan" but otherwise plain - that suggests Matsumoku, which could explain the unusual shape of the body. Seller seems straightforward. He says he got the guitar this way and doesn't know the history. He agrees it looks like the Floyd was replaced. The old style collar on the Floyd suggest OFR and not Floyd Special, agreed?
I would love to hear other's thoughts on this. I had been wanting to do an F3000 with EMGs, so if everything else checks out, I might think about running out there and get this. It's not a steal, but not horrible either if everything checks out, and I don't have any Matsus in the family if that's what this is.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:04 pm 
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Might have to look at it. Just because it has an old style collar doesn't mean it was original to that Floyd. I've also had older Floyds with the newer style threaded collar retrofitted, because that was all they sold at the local guitar store. I'd say if the headstock and body paint match up then they're probably original to each other, unless someone was super lucky and found a body that paint matched the headstock. At least at this price point.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:21 pm 
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Looks like it's had a pickup and tremolo swap but it's reasonable to assume the neck and body started together. Only way to know for sure is to pull off the neck. Price isn't too horrible given the pickup upgrade.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:19 pm 
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Matsu 3000 neck & body & PG.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:41 pm 
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sixstring wrote:
Matsu 3000 neck & body & PG.

100% the only thing not original is the Floyd and the pickups. The Matsu necks’ headstocks are slightly different. The headstocks are a little longer, the logos are black, and the string retainer bar is in a slightly different position.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:07 pm 
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Thanks guys for the knowledge! :not
I just got thrown a little financial curveball earlier today, so it might be a moot point if I'm not in a position to buy another guitar at the moment, but I would like try and pursue it if I can. I guess I'll continue with the spring cleaning and see if I can keep working to drum up some extra cash.
My short-lived fantasy was that somehow a Pacer Deluxe body got attached to a Focus neck, however unrealistic that might have been. But a clean Matsu might be just as good or better. I sold a clean Matsu Aria Pro II HSS strat earlier this year for very cheap, and I've been kicking myself ever since because it was such a sweet player, but I just hated the APT3 tremolo and didn't feel like going to the trouble of retrofitting. Would love to add a Matsu Kramer to my small collection, it's just that the timing is not great for me financially, so we'll see.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:18 pm 
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+1 on the Matsu......those markings in the pickup cavities are a dead giveaway.

You're not missing anything if he is stuck on $450.00

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:38 am 
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Matsu +1

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