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 Post subject: lower output Humbuckers
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:41 am 
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Anyone here ever use lower output humbuckers in the bridge position?

Anyone crank traditional PAF's or something of the like?

Thoughts/opinions?


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 Post subject: lower output Humbuckers
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:28 am 
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Yes, Pearly Gates in most of my guitars and IMO it's the best pickup ever made. About the same output as a PAF but much more sizzle and warmth, in a good way. Think ZZ Top sound, also it works great for high-gain because it never gets muddy and still has lots of bite in the mids. Then there is the Fender version with "Plus" in the name, that one sounds a bit "colder" with more high end, also nice but not as raunchy as the non-Plus version.

Schaller Golden50's as used in old Kramers are also rather low output and sound nice as well. Different beast with much more pronounced mids, does not work in any guitar so you'd have to find out if it fits yours.

PAF is also always a possibility, but most of them have too much treble for my taste so I always end up going back to the Pearly Gates.

I also tried some Lace sensor alumitones and liked the sound as well, kinda like PAF but even less noise.


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 Post subject: lower output Humbuckers
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:58 am 
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For a little while. I had (1) main guitar.
My 1989 PRS Custom. I put some Duncan Seth Lovers in it and it has been a magical combo.
I also really like PRS Mccarty pickups. They have the warmth of the Lover's but with the benefit of being wax potted.
I have used several Duncan Pearly Gates pickups in guitars. The PG used to be my favorite pickup.
Then about a year ago. I bought my first Duncan 78. I put it in my Kramer Sustainer. WOW!
The 78 is an amazing sounding pickup. I have bought a few since.
I have one in my 84 Baretta. I have one in trembucker ready to go into my maple project guitar.
I usually prefer a cleaner, warmer, PAF style pickup.
I am also kind of old school.
I prefer my signal chain to be Fingers, Guitar with PAF style pickup, Cable, and Amp, and sometimes a Wah pedal.
I have a few complicated multi FX guitar rigs, that sound great.
But! Plug my #1 PRS DIRECTLY into my #1 Marshall, or #2 Mesa Boogie. It is a hard tone to beat.

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 Post subject: lower output Humbuckers
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:36 am 
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Just a fun nerd thing.
A few years ago.
I actually held in my hands the original U.S. patent paper work for the PAF (patent applied for) pickup invented by Seth Lover, and brought to market by Ted Mccarty of Gibson.
That was a pretty cool day.
Thanks Paul.

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 Post subject: lower output Humbuckers
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:23 pm 
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In a Paul Unkert interview I was listening to, Paul mentioned he had a stash of old Gibson PAFs which he used on the Edward Franky builds. He said he was fairly certain that the ones Ed preferred were actually neck pups. If that is true, we are talking pretty low output for the brown sound of the mid eighties.

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 Post subject: lower output Humbuckers
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:42 am 
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kremark wrote:
If that is true, we are talking pretty low output for the brown sound of the mid eighties.


And not to forget ...


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 Post subject: lower output Humbuckers
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:48 pm 
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Good replies. I like them myself (though I use higher gain as well).


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 Post subject: lower output Humbuckers
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:49 am 
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Gibson hums are also among my favs, though I prefer the rather high-output 498T in the bridge position. It just has that fat, rich tone perfect for metal. Not so good for guitars with strong mids, it can be too sharp then. Their burstbuckers and good old 490's (PAF-type) are also great.


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 Post subject: lower output Humbuckers
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:03 pm 
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Dimarzio 36th Anniversary pickups in my Edwards Les Paul sound amazing... :headbang

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