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 Post subject: Kramer Focus 4000
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:52 pm 
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OK, well looks like I'm wrong. There is a beat-up one right now on eBay with black hardware and the same black tuners. I guess that's what I get for acting like I know something :whistle

http://www.ebay.com/itm/122537768741?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

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 Post subject: Kramer Focus 4000
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:34 pm 
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Doc wrote:
OK, well looks like I'm wrong


I read the info on Vintagekramer.com like everybody else, but the additional input is very valuable to me :)

I also have a Focus 4000 but older, real V shape Gibson-style, cream color in perfect condition that I LOVE.

And a F-6000, neon pink, also in almost perfect shape.

Just love those axes


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 Post subject: Kramer Focus 4000
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:45 pm 
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kremark wrote:
You probably know by now, but it's worth noting that the Focus 4000 not only had the asymmetric V body, but the rarest of headstock shapes ( in terms of pure numbers). It's the chicken beak.
How do you like the feel and sound, now that you threw in the Duncan?


I own 5 Kramer (2x Striker, 3x Focus) and one thing I have to mention is that this Focus 4000 has the thickest neck of em' all.. Very Fender-style kinda thick.. With the SD Custom and the neck, great sustain with rich and fat tone. I really like it.

I was given a Striker 400 ST years ago and since then, all Kramer I touched ended up in my place... Don't own an American yet, and that's my plan someday :)


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 Post subject: Kramer Focus 4000
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:32 pm 
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My guess is an 84.
Im not comvinced these were factory black hardware.
There wasnt a custom shop for the focus line & no other foci sported black at the time..
Call it coincidence.


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 Post subject: Kramer Focus 4000
PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:00 am 
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sixstring wrote:
My guess is an 84.
Im not comvinced these were factory black hardware.
There wasnt a custom shop for the focus line & no other foci sported black at the time..
Call it coincidence.


Looking at the link doc provided, that one even has a black neck plate which appears to be original. scratch_head Seems like the 4000 might be a bit of a dark horse. No pun intended.
Also just to clarify, JivRey, you definitely have a Focus because it says Focus on the headstock. The F series would typically have a truss rod cover to identify F-1000 or whatever it was and it has the large Kramer logo with the shrinking letters. Regardless, nice axe you got there. :thumbs
Sounds like you got bit by the same bug we all have. Enjoy the guitar and accept the sickness :headbang

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 Post subject: Kramer Focus 4000
PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:46 am 
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One thing I've noticed is the back plates on the tuners are D shaped. All focus of tbe era used Gotoh which have round plates and new Gotohs still do.
This https://reverb.com/item/1799329-kramer- ... floyd-rose
has a black plate & tuners of the same style, although all the info provided by the seller is bogus.
A few may have left the factory black. Ah Kramer...always something new even +/-35 yrs!!


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 Post subject: Kramer Focus 4000
PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:38 am 
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Another question: is the Floyd a flat black or shiny?


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 Post subject: Kramer Focus 4000
PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:57 pm 
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JivRey wrote:
kremark wrote:
You probably know by now, but it's worth noting that the Focus 4000 not only had the asymmetric V body, but the rarest of headstock shapes ( in terms of pure numbers). It's the chicken beak.
How do you like the feel and sound, now that you threw in the Duncan?


I own 5 Kramer (2x Striker, 3x Focus) and one thing I have to mention is that this Focus 4000 has the thickest neck of em' all.. Very Fender-style kinda thick.. With the SD Custom and the neck, great sustain with rich and fat tone. I really like it.

I was given a Striker 400 ST years ago and since then, all Kramer I touched ended up in my place... Don't own an American yet, and that's my plan someday :)


Interesting! I own 10 Kramers, 8 American and 2 Focus.

The Focus 4000 has the absolute smallest neck bar none. The largest neck belongs to an 84 Pacer Carrera...and it's the largest despite having the finish shaved off down to bare wood.

Edit: PS the Focus 4000 is black and came with chrome hardware and neck plate.


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 Post subject: Kramer Focus 4000
PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:18 pm 
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sixstring wrote:
Another question: is the Floyd a flat black or shiny?


It's hard to say.. Looks flat to me, but there's what looks like a layer of the Ibanez Cosmo-black before the metal surface (3rd image)..

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 Post subject: Kramer Focus 4000
PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:25 pm 
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PsychoCid wrote:
The Focus 4000 has the absolute smallest neck bar none.


I know this is nothing scientific but look at this picture.. The other guitar is my Creme colored Focus 4000 Flying V like in the 1983 Focus flyer.

The best I could measure it, all the necks of my other Kramer are 3/4" thick and this guitar is 7/8".. Looks and feels a lot thicker.


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