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 Post subject: Focus 2000 / Pacer Build
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:15 pm 
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Well, crap. So, apparently the truss rod hole that the dude stuck at the top of the guitar is too large, which will make it so that the screws for the locking nut won't be securely placed in the neck.
I guess I will be looking for a real Kramer Pacer neck, now. :bang

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 Post subject: Focus 2000 / Pacer Build
PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:25 am 
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Make it rear-mount? That should work I think.


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 Post subject: Focus 2000 / Pacer Build
PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:51 am 
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Fireful0 wrote:
It's very close to a Kramer neck, just the headstock tilt is off.


Nope, there´s actually not really much resemblance at all besides the poorly stylized beak shrug .

BUT, if the price-quality-relation was right and you bond with it, that´s all that matters :thumbs .

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 Post subject: Focus 2000 / Pacer Build
PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:40 am 
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_xxx_ wrote:
Make it rear-mount? That should work I think.

Worth a shot if the neck was cheap enough.
Maybe get your money back stating its unusable. Dealing with overseas sellers is a PITA tho...

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 Post subject: Focus 2000 / Pacer Build
PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:19 am 
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sixstring wrote:
_xxx_ wrote:
Make it rear-mount? That should work I think.

Worth a shot if the neck was cheap enough.
Maybe get your money back stating its unusable. Dealing with overseas sellers is a PITA tho...


Exactly what I was thinking.
I am sure the Chinese guy would accept it, but I don't want to deal with the hassle of shipping.
Rear mount is not a bad idea, either. It may look a bit weird though, as the neck already is routed out for the nut.
The weird thing, is that later model Kramer guitars with the pointy headstock had the truss rod at the headstock, with an R2 nut. So maybe my neck is not complete garbage yet? They may have had a slimmer truss though...

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 Post subject: Focus 2000 / Pacer Build
PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:07 am 
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Alright, so a little update.
I have done a ton of research on Kramer necks today (Along with just about buying a real Kramer neck off of Ebay) but something major stuck out to me.
During the pointy headstock era, Kramer was starting to use R2 nuts with a truss rod at the headstock.
Knowing that, my neck "MIGHT" be fine after all.
The only real way to know for sure is to purchase an R2 nut. :D

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 Post subject: Focus 2000 / Pacer Build
PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:18 am 
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+1 on the rear route. You will need either 2 appropriately sized brad point bits, or as I chose, a forstner bit for the larger diameter hole as it cuts a very nice and flat bottom surface in the hole. Guarantee that BC Rich truss rod tunnel of my neck shown below is every bit as wide as that of your neck. For each of the 2 required routes, I recommend making a very small pilot hole with a drill press perpendicular to the nut shelf. The large bit has to have a guide point, so do not drill the small diameter part until the last step. 1st a very small diameter guide hole from the top. 2nd the large hole from the rear :alien . Finally the center hole with thw correct diameter. Just realized that is really 3 bits, not just 2, but the tiny pilot bit serves the purpose of locating the center point for the rear route. Drill press for sure every time.

A picture of step #2 (I am a hypocrite....no drill press)

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 Post subject: Focus 2000 / Pacer Build
PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:24 am 
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Thanks for the info!
Most likely, I am going to have the nut installed by a professional, only because I don't want to mess up the neck. And my luck, I would ruin it. XD
Some people like the top mounted floyd nuts, while others like the rear mounted.
Personally, I am a huge fan of the rear mounted, as I think in the long run it is going to be more reliable, and less likely to move.

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 Post subject: Focus 2000 / Pacer Build
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:56 pm 
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Well, after 4 1/2 hours of sanding, the neck is super close to a Kramer neck.
It now fits in the neck pocket, looks better, and is thinner on the back.
My dad used a scroll saw in order to get the headstock to be more Kramer like.
Purchased a Kramer neckplate that should be here on Saturday.
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 Post subject: Focus 2000 / Pacer Build
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:45 am 
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HS looks definitely better now :thumbs .

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