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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:46 pm 
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When I take it apart I think I will change a few little things.

1.) I have a vintage set of black Schaller tuning machines to put on it. I think the Jackson logo tuners kind of throw the whole vibe off a bit. I might be able to sell and get a few bucks for the Jackson tuners.
2.) I have a black football jack plate around here somewhere. I think it would just look better.
3.) I have a vintage black Duncan JBJ (MJ) made trembucker.
(It seems a perfect match for this 80's custom shredder)
Of course it depends on what pickup is already in it.

That's about the only things I can think of that would make it better.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:47 pm 
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The more I think about it, the neck is probably a Custom Dreams neck as well. They sold the Jackson pointy style neck that they are most associated with, but they also sold blank strat head necks. I watched my friend trade in a maple FB, banana neck off his 1985 Baretta for a strat head neck which is still on his Baretta to this day. As others indicated, your neck is not a Charvel strat head.

There was a user on the old forum called Rupe. He had like ten Rand guitars. He also used to have a Marilyn Monroe Custom Dreams guitar.

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Snake with his Custom Dreams, Kline painted, guitar.

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Snake after he added the Kramer neck.

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Custom Dreams with a Strat neck.

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Not sure why, but I had this Kline advertisement in my Custom Dreams folder. Notice, due to trademark, he can't call it the Marilyn Monroe graphic, he calls it the Cinderella Video.

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IMO, Custom Dreams guitars are highly collectible. They are the last unknown brand out there waiting for collectors.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:01 pm 
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Just got it.
First observations.
1.) NO DOUBT it is a KLINE 1989
2.)Neck is FNG AWESOME! Guessing R2 nut. Small C shape at 1st frets, slightly thinner going up the neck. Feels like a cross between a Fender 60's C neck and a Music man axis neck.
Flat radius fret board. Possibly a 20 radius the whole length. It feels smooth like satin, only a few coats of nitro. I can not see a decal outline on the Charvel made in USA TM logo. Nut hangs off the shelf toward tuners 3/16. Neck does not sit all the way down into the pocket. There is a 1/8 inch gap at the bottom. Jumbo frets, may need a level, crown, and polish, they are kind of flat.
3.) Neck plate. Is black metal flat steel plate with a black plastic spacer. Serial # is stamped 6 digit # E711***. No other I.D.
4.) No holes for tremolo cover. Possibly painted over.
5.) Control cavity is NOT shielded with paint or copper. Greenish paint is noticeable. Possibly the original color. Missing the control cavity plate.
6.) Electronics and wiring seem newer. Looks like a newer Dimarzio pickup.
7.) Definitely a older, original Floyd Rose. No Patent # on the block. Early 80's?
8.) Checking crack on top is normal for a Kline of this age.
9.) It weighs in at 8 lbs 10 ounces.

I just took the neck off. It is a nice Mighty Might neck, lic. by Fender. Wierd R4 nut.
That solves that mystery.
In the neck pocket there is hand writing that says Kline in black,
and Hollywood in green. I could not find any writing any where else.
The pickup is a Dimarzio with a sticker that says 155, and a pat # sticker. So that is an early Tone Zone? Not my cup of tea. It will be sold.
I see 2 tooth pic size divots in the paint between the Floyd Rose posts. The divots appear to be where holes were.
It is a real good chance that this was the location of the holes that were for a 1986 Charvel Model 2 trem. Just coincidence?
That would explain a lot. I will post pic's later.
For now I will put it back together with a JBJ, R2 nut, and set it up.

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88 Nightswan Sparkle BL
90 ProAxe Std CR
87 Ripley Blk
89 Sustainer Blk
84 Baretta BLK
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:49 pm 
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Never saw a MM neck with that figuring before! :yikes
Maybe the pointy Custom Dreams neck broke & had this bolt on. shrug

PS- Tort who’s the old guy playing those CD gits? :poke

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:06 pm 
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Some pics.
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88 Nightswan Sparkle BL
90 ProAxe Std CR
87 Ripley Blk
89 Sustainer Blk
84 Baretta BLK
85 Baretta CR
86 Focus 1000 Blk
84 Focus 1000 CR
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:50 pm 
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Guess I will have to call Mr. Unkert.
Maybe he will have some answers?
Maybe an old Custom Dreams neck laying around? LOL.

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88 Nightswan Sparkle BL
90 ProAxe Std CR
87 Ripley Blk
89 Sustainer Blk
84 Baretta BLK
85 Baretta CR
86 Focus 1000 Blk
84 Focus 1000 CR
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:48 am 
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Nothing weird about R4, it was also used on some pointy Kramers. Same size as R3 but wider string spacing.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:25 pm 
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I had a short but great talk with Mr. Unkert today.
It seems this is NOT a Custom Dreams guitar body.
I was informed how to identify them.
I really think that this is a model 2 body. When the back covers become available for a model 2. I will buy them and see if they fit.
It is still a rare Kline. So that is cool.

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85 Striker 100ST Blk (1st E. Guitar)
88 Nightswan Sparkle BL
90 ProAxe Std CR
87 Ripley Blk
89 Sustainer Blk
84 Baretta BLK
85 Baretta CR
86 Focus 1000 Blk
84 Focus 1000 CR
90's SSD Blackhawk


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:15 pm 
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So now I have a different plan.
Going to reassemble this guitar correctly.
A level, crown, and polish has been done today.
Then in a week or so sell it as a parts mutt with a killer Kline artwork and relist it for sale.
See if the Kline collectors want it.

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Joe in Detroit
85 Striker 100ST Blk (1st E. Guitar)
88 Nightswan Sparkle BL
90 ProAxe Std CR
87 Ripley Blk
89 Sustainer Blk
84 Baretta BLK
85 Baretta CR
86 Focus 1000 Blk
84 Focus 1000 CR
90's SSD Blackhawk


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:52 pm 
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Well I got it back together. More correctly than I got it. I found a vintage black Charvel foot ball jack plate in my parts bin. I guess it pays off to keep those things. It looks way better, and more correct. I also swapped the tremolo arm coupling. I like the early style and never have enough around. So the next owner gets a new one.
Tomorrow I will make a cavity cover for it. Then I will also dial in the setup. Then after that, up for sale it goes.
I will list this high at first. Considering I have nothing to compare it to. So don't Flame me.
It doesn't hurt to try to sell high, I can always lower the price. It is a unique guitar.
I have been researching Charvel bodies. After a lot of effort. I feel 90% confident that this is NOT a model series body. The control cavity is just too different.
After seeing several examples of mid 1980's USA San Dimas Charvel bodies. I am about 90% confident that this is a USA San Dimas body.
Here are some better pics.

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85 Striker 100ST Blk (1st E. Guitar)
88 Nightswan Sparkle BL
90 ProAxe Std CR
87 Ripley Blk
89 Sustainer Blk
84 Baretta BLK
85 Baretta CR
86 Focus 1000 Blk
84 Focus 1000 CR
90's SSD Blackhawk


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