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I have a theory that possibly, when Kramer started using Floyds, and Eddie was running them with two springs, extra length was needed in the spring cavity, and thus the pattern was modified.

Just looked at a couple of my Pacers. Never noticed that b4. Good stuff

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1981 Pacer Strat Head White
1981 Pacer Strat Head Walnut
1981 Pacer Strat Head Graphic
1981 Pacer Strat Head Sunburst
1982 Pacer Graphic Beak
83/86 Molested Pacer - TransRed Beak
1984 Pacer Candy Red Hockey
1984 Pacer Blue Hockey

I´ve been watching that one since it popped up. That´s a mutt and is clearly labeled as such. No deception .

That is a Sports body with a Pacer neck and pretty good ingredients for the rest of the guitar. Re-sale value in parts would cover the price.

So, nothing fake or to beware of in the description imo.

In that price range you´d be hard pressed to find a guitar of any current production line model of any other brand that would be better quality wise in Germany, that is.

Edit: Just saw, that the seller raised the price considerably since I last looked. That is a bit steep, even for Germany.

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Practice cures most tone issues.

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Great Deals with MrWhipper, JoeyM, Del Hudson, skydive69 and Kramer Classic I

Better shape than some original ones and may play better at that price.
It's a parts guitar & can be treated as such.

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But let's face it, someone buys a Kramer b/c it has a Floyd.

At that BIN price, I'd sell you my burst Imp without thinking twice... with a real Pacer neck and case included.

sale ended.....

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86 lefty kramer focus 1000 white
83 Kramer Focus 3000
88 Kramer Beretta
86 Kramer Pacer Custom
1992 ibanez 170L
(all leftys)

Well, which bin do you mean? He started with 550 Euros. The second try was 995 - which I found pretty brash (see my comment above). Now he is back at a bin of 530.

In that ballpark I find this guitar really not expensive. It´s just that I don´t need another guitar otherwise I would take your offer, drove to Benzeville and gave you the 480 (bin minus ebay fee) in cash tomorrow.

But since I just drove back from Switzerland this morning I really don´t feel like doing that .

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Practice cures most tone issues.

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Great Deals with MrWhipper, JoeyM, Del Hudson, skydive69 and Kramer Classic I

Nope, he did a short one and tried a hilarious 995 in that. It´s still on with a bin realistic bin of 530.

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Practice cures most tone issues.

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Great Deals with MrWhipper, JoeyM, Del Hudson, skydive69 and Kramer Classic I

I only saw the latter. And it is definitely a Focus neck.

You can have mine for 650 plus actual shipping, last chance before it goes to eBay in parts.

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1981 Pacer Strat Head White
1981 Pacer Strat Head Walnut
1981 Pacer Strat Head Graphic
1981 Pacer Strat Head Sunburst
1982 Pacer Graphic Beak
83/86 Molested Pacer - TransRed Beak
1984 Pacer Candy Red Hockey
1984 Pacer Blue Hockey