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 Post subject: FAKE Pacer, beware
PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:34 pm 
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80sChris wrote:
9am53 wrote:
What "notch" on the ower left side am I looking at? I think this swoopy body shape is really sick...sports body eh? Ive tried to find a notch but cant seem to find one.


Just above the spring anchor on this photo, like the router template wasn't quite right:

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I have a theory that possibly, when Kramer started using Floyds, and Eddie was running them with two springs, extra length was needed in the spring cavity, and thus the pattern was modified.


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 Post subject: FAKE Pacer, beware
PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:40 pm 
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Just looked at a couple of my Pacers. Never noticed that b4. Good stuff

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 Post subject: FAKE Pacer, beware
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:15 am 
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I´ve been watching that one since it popped up. That´s a mutt and is clearly labeled as such. No deception shrug .

That is a Sports body with a Pacer neck and pretty good ingredients for the rest of the guitar. Re-sale value in parts would cover the price.

So, nothing fake or to beware of in the description imo.

In that price range you´d be hard pressed to find a guitar of any current production line model of any other brand that would be better quality wise in Germany, that is.

Edit: Just saw, that the seller raised the price considerably since I last looked. That is a bit steep, even for Germany.

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 Post subject: FAKE Pacer, beware
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:48 am 
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Better shape than some original ones and may play better at that price.
It's a parts guitar & can be treated as such. :hit

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 Post subject: FAKE Pacer, beware
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:05 pm 
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At that BIN price, I'd sell you my burst Imp without thinking twice... with a real Pacer neck and case included.


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 Post subject: FAKE Pacer, beware
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:28 pm 
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sale ended..... shrug scratch_head

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 Post subject: FAKE Pacer, beware
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:59 pm 
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At that BIN price, I'd sell you my burst Imp without thinking twice... with a real Pacer neck and case included.


Well, which bin do you mean? He started with 550 Euros. The second try was 995 - which I found pretty brash (see my comment above). Now he is back at a bin of 530.

In that ballpark I find this guitar really not expensive. It´s just that I don´t need another guitar otherwise I would take your offer, drove to Benzeville and gave you the 480 (bin minus ebay fee) in cash tomorrow.

But since I just drove back from Switzerland this morning I really don´t feel like doing that shrug .

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 Post subject: FAKE Pacer, beware
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:02 pm 
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LhKramerLunatic wrote:
sale ended..... shrug scratch_head


Nope, he did a short one and tried a hilarious 995 in that. It´s still on with a bin realistic bin of 530.

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 Post subject: FAKE Pacer, beware
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:41 pm 
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I only saw the latter. And it is definitely a Focus neck.

You can have mine for 650 plus actual shipping, last chance before it goes to eBay in parts.


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 Post subject: FAKE Pacer, beware
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:57 pm 
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_xxx_ wrote:
I only saw the latter. And it is definitely a Focus neck.

You can have mine for 650 plus actual shipping, last chance before it goes to eBay in parts.

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